Watch Angus and Allan talk about CIOs, Cloud and oranges or read the full transcript below.
What should every CIO know about Cloud, well, every CIO should know something about Cloud. I think we can agree on that part.
But, look, I don't have time for... I shouldn't put it that way. I think the era of the CIO that declared that we're a Cloud first business just because everybody else is doing that. I think that's finished and what we're seeing in Australia and you know from my experience internationally, as well, in some of the more advanced Cloud markets is, we're seeing people with technical understanding of what Cloud and other advances in technology can do for their business and that's what CIOs really need.
They need to understand how Cloud gives them and their businesses the freedom to be remarkable, not just we're gonna go there because everybody else is and that might deliver us some cost savings.
It's a variable topic, but I think that, you know. I think first of all, the move to, the move to Cloud is actually a, a move to make your business more nimble. Now I'm, that's the opportunity that lays in front of you. It's not always about cost savings. It's great that cost savings are a by product but that's exactly what it is, it's a by product of making a business more nimble.
I think, I think the agile model that, enables you to, you know to, to be more nimble. You, you need to be okay with value in some states and it's more about getting in there and trying uh, and doing some proof of concepts and you know, and just start building trust and start practicing the ways to make your business more nimble. It's not just about moving applications into, into any eco system.
It's always a great first step, but there has to be back in your mind. It has to be, actually you know, how do we transform this, how do we transform this business into being something that is going to adapt to oncoming competition.
Yeah, and the, the, the, the new generation of CIOs coming in. I think also need to realize that the partners that have got them to this point, can't get them to where they need to go next.
And, and it gets back to that conversation around the inter priority service delivery model. You can't get what you need from one or two big technology sourcing partners, I think. The best CIOs now understand that they need to engage specialists to deliver that transformation in their organisation. That's a very different perspective to what a CIO would have had in the past.
Yeah. Yeah, and I said if I bought apples today, 10 apples isn't gonna equal one orange. Like, it's like you could have a billion apples, you're not gonna get the orange they need, you know to be able to, at the level what they, they need to do.
I'm gonna have to get you to explain to me what that actually means later.
I don't know. I don't know. I just like apples. (laughing).